Nomination making his way down the steps as he prepares for another afternoon in court. Its an extraordinary situation to say the least of a former president and someone who is currently running. We have amazing fox team coverage. We have dana perino, Shannon Bream and jessica tarlov. First, lets go to david spunt live outside the federal courthouse where we expect the former president will pull up a short time from now. Hi, david. Hi, martha. Its symbolic here today. You cant see it on camera. Were just feet away from the u. S. Capitol blocks away from the white house. The former president will make his way here, as you said, in motorcade. He will head before the Magistrate Judge. He wont be placed under arrest in handcuffs or mug shots. We know he will specifically be fingerprinted. Once hes here, hes in the custody of u. S. Marshals. Hes not in the custody of the fbi. Hes not going to have his hands behind his back. He did say he would be arrested today. I want to put up this truth social. He put before he left new jersey and flew to washington d. C. , he just said im going to washington d. C. To be arrested for having challenged a corrupt rigged and stolen election. Its a great honor. Im being arrested for you. Make America Great again. A historic day. The way this goes, this is a first appearance. This is an arraignment. He will be seated at the table with both of his attorneys. Its not clear if they will speak for him or he will enter his own plea of not guilty. As you said, this is the third time the former president has had to go before a judge and go through this. Each time its been a little bit different. Still, hes used to it somewhat at this point. So were waiting for this motorcade to appear here. Security is heavy. Theres several hundred members of the media out here. Very small presence of protesters. Pro trump, antitrump. Its mostly media. No doubt, symbolic. Near the u. S. Capitol where the riots happened and the white house where the former president used to list, where he wants to live again. Martha . Martha thank you, david spunt outside the federal courthouse. As the momentum builds here. You can see the motorcade leaving the airport in arlington, virginia. He will make his way to the courthouse. Its in the shadow of the capitol and the white house. Very long motorcade there for the former president. Some of his associates traveling with him. Lets bring in our panel, dana perino, co host of the five. Shannon bream, chief Legal Correspondent and jessica tarlov, a Fox News Contributor and co host of the five. Great to have you with us this afternoon. Thanks very much for being here. Dana, lets start with you. Your thoughts as we watch this play out. Its strange to think this is unprecedented and historic and also routine and kind of boring. Because as david spunt just said, this is the third time. This is a different case. This is about january 6th. When the indictment came out, i read it. I thought it was new information. I read the whole thing. I thought how is it that i know all of this . They spent all of this time doing all of this investigation and put together things that you could have found that was in a google search. I dont understand how that is possible that they went forward with that. The other thing is, they made a strategic decision to just name donald trump and not the other Co Conspirators that are numbered in the docket. That is because they want this case to go to trial before the election. That is why i think a lot of people arent out there protesting. Because they think one is political or two, its not going to work or three, if youre a democrat and i dont speak for the democrats or the republicans. Jessica can tell me their point of view. In some ways as i read their coverage, they feel deflated and its not the slam dunk that they thought it was especially with the New York Times poll regardless of all the trump information that biden and trump are tied 4343. Its stunning when you look at the numbers of people that say that they dont want either of these individuals to be the candidate. Its very interesting to read that truth social post from the former president. He clearly is leaning in to all of this politically. Hes saying im doing this for you. Hes an excellent he has an excellent ear for what is going on with people. He can feel he sees the poll, 71 of republicans say that its time to stick with President Trump. What do you think . Yeah, this only helps him. Every time theres an indictment, it helps in polling, this is good messaging for him. Months ago before the first indictment, will you drop out if you get indicted . He said no, it will help. Hes got a good ear for these things. He understands. Not that hell will be the capitol and the white house, but the Supreme Court. Thats where this may end up. This is all unchartered territory. New cases, new theorys in many ways. To see a former president facing dozens and dozens of criminal charges, they could end up with those justices, three that came on his watch. A local of legal wrangling to go. The judge that he will face has been tough on the january 6th defendants that have come before her. She sentenced 34 of them. Shes rule in 21 against the president on something regarding dockets for the January 6th Committee. So his team has a very long uphill fight with this judge. And jury probably in d. C. , too. Martha i want to follow up with one thing. Do you think these cases go to trial before the election . I have doubts about that. Theres so much pretrial wrangling that you do, motions, appeals. Especially on the maralargo case. People will file challenges to it. I have real doubts the federal cases will get there. Martha and the other layer of whether or not it is appropriate to bring a case that close to an election. So i think that is something to watch closely. I was just listening to Andy Mccarthy. He said something that really caught me just a moment ago. He said everyone in america, im paraphrasing, sees the haste to get these cases to trial before the political calendar. How do you think that reflects on democrats . The cases arent being brought by the democrats. Theyre being brought by a Special Counsel and hes being indicted by a grand jury. Hes not being indicted by andy mccabe sitting in a room. People forget that. Ive heard so much about potential biases of this judge in d. C. Look at the judge he got in florida. Its one he appointed and rule in favor of him and had to be overruled by the 11th circuit. So its a bit of this, that bit of that. I love the people of south florida. I cant get a fair shake with the people in d. C. Dont commit crimes in d. C. If you dont want to see a jury of d. C. Residents. Thats how it works. Dont commit crimes at all and you can be running like a normal candidate. I was particularly struck by bill barrs interview last night. He went on. I thought this was going to be one block. He stayed on 40 minutes. Really gave a whole host of opinions on this. One thing that particularly struck me is he thought the indictment was stronger than he expected it to be. So he thinks the maralargo case, the classified Documents Case is the strongest. Theres agreement on both sides of the aisle that that with the audio tapes and the pictures, et cetera. Bill barr was saying that this is now a case that he understands why it was brought. There was new information there with mike pences testimony, which to the January 6th Committee was not able to get. Martha he said arguments of Freedom Of Speech will protect you from conspiracy. If they can prove that link, the links are difficult. Theyre tenuous in my ways. Connect those two things together. Were going to continue with our panel in just a moment. Great coverage here from of the former president s trump arraignment. You can see the vehicles as they make their way across here. We have coming up, well take to bret baier, to neil cavuto, well talk to Andy Mccarthy later this hour. Also joining us, jim turley and congressman jim jordan. We have this transcript from what devin archer told the oversight committee. Now President Joe Biden about the their interactions with hunter and his Business Partners. Wow. This is fascinating as well. So they will be here in moments. Dont go anywhere. Lots going on on the story. Im your overly competitive brother. Check. Psych and im about to steal this game from you just like i stole kelly carter in high school. You got no game dude, thats a foul and now youre ready to settle the score. Game over. And if you dont have the right Home Insurance coverage, well, you could end up paying for all this yourself. 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Well, i do think the end result, the takeaway is, i think this just strengthens just hardens the support for President Trump and expands it. Dana mentioned earlier that you look at the poll numbers earlier in the week, its 54 to 17 in the republican primary. But more importantly, hes dead even with joe biden in the New York Times poll. If thats what the New York Times is saying, its probably better for President Trump in another poll. This i think only, again, hardens his support, expands his support because the country gets it. The reason that is happening is because so much of the country is sick of this nonstop attack, this ridiculous attack on President Trump for seven years and this Elite Attitude in washington d. C. That were better than everybody, a different set of rules. Hillbillies in ohio, flyover country are sick of it. Were going to support President Trump. Thats the takeaway and the result of this. Martha thats absolutely echoed in the polls you just mentioned and that we talked about moments ago. Its clear and its clear that President Trump, the former president knows that. He said in his truth social post just a short time ago, basically im doing this for you. You know, dont mind doing this, its an honor because im doing it for you. Its fascinating to watch this play out, especially so in the wake of what were seeing on the other side of the aisle with the hunter biden investigation. I want to put this up. Ill cut out if we see that, guys. This is pretty interesting. This is a letter that joe biden wrote to devin archer in 2011. He was i guess they were just starting out in this business trying to put together a business that dealt with government regulatory measures and making that to a private equity fund. You know, all sort of under the auspices of the support that they would get from washington at that time and ostensively the president. Dear devin, i apologize for not talking to you yesterday. I had trouble getting away hosting president hu, the president of china. I hope to get back to you with hunter soon. Happy you guys are together. What do you make of this letter and his contention that he doesnt have any connection to his son or devin archer in these businesses that they were running . Just one more piece of evidence that he did have connections. Remember, 2 1 2 years ago, we had a former business partner, mr. Bobulinski say the email from the laptop, the laptop that is real, the email says 10 for the big guy. The big guy is joe biden. We have the piece of evidence you talked about. This note from 2011. We have the whatsup app message. Then we have the 1023 form which says, you know, the confidential Human Sources trusted by the fbi talking with foreign nationals sending money for the bidens for po policy preferences. An then we have the Devin Archer Testimony and the meeting in dubai where the two people from burisma are meeting with hunter biden and devin archer and they say we need the government to step in because were under so much pressure. So all that begins to pile up. Martha it does. Id love to put another piece of the puzzle in here, if i may. This is from the transcript of devin archers testimony, oversight. A lot of people saw congressman dan goldman come out and say, you know what . They talked about the weather when joe biden was on this speaker phone. This is nothing. They checked in all the time. Particularly a close family. When you look at what was said here, its interesting. Representative goldman says hunter biden never asked his father to take official actions on behalf of his Business Partners. Archer, he did not, he did not ask him to my knowledge. I never saw him say or do anything for a particular business. 0 goldman youre not aware of joe biden doing anything to help his sons Business Partners . Archer no, the calls were thats what it was. They were calls to talk about the weather and that was signal enough to be powerful. He left out that last part when he was in front of the cameras, congressman. Of course, the whole idea was im going to get the Vice President on the phone. Theyre not going to talk about business. That isnt what was needed. What was needed i can get my dad on the phone who happens to be Vice President of the most important country in history who has a lot of influence in d. C. I can get him on the phone. Hey, everyone. Say hello to the Vice President. We knew what these calls were. We dont need them to tell us what they talked about. We knew how it was mr. Archer described it. Thats the brand. Thats the access. It wasnt an illusion of access. That meeting in dubai on december 4, 2015 where they talk about the pressure theyre under, five days later, joe biden goes to ukraine, gives a speech criticizing the prosecutor that was applying the pressure to burisma. That begins this pattern over the next few months that they get the prosecutor fired so ukraine can get the people i represent, the American Peoples t tax dollars. There wasnt an illusion. We see it all in ukraine. Martha let me ask you this. This is coming out of the House Oversight committee. Does the fbi and the doj have all of the same information watching and if so, why hasnt it been further investigated . I always go back to Tony Bobulinski giving his laptop and his phone to the fbi and saying they never called me, they never asked me. Has there ever been an actual investigation into this . If so not, why . And if there isnt, what is your avenue and where do you st