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Indictment for the first time were being told that News Conference will take place in about 19 minutes. Meantime lets get you live outside the courthouse to matt finn. He is in atlanta with the breaking allegations on this matter. What do we know . Hydrates we are looking through the Indictment Documents right now, but they do read that donald trump and some of his associates, including Rudy Giuliani and mark meadows, have been listed and charged in this indictment. Theres a long list of various charges, including racketeering, false statements and solicitation of violation of an oath by a public officer. Were reading through this right now will be able to update you much more throughout the coming hour or two. Throughout the day. There was a lot of anticipation or questions. About who might be named in this indictment. If any of Donald Trumps associates would be listed, we now know that many of them are theres a long list, including some of his former attorneys, including jenna ellis. We are now waiting on that Press Conference from the Fulton County District Attorney fani willis. That is likely going to give us much more information and insight into this very long investigation, a centered around alleged misconduct and Criminal Activity on behalf of the former president and his associates regarding the 2020 General Election here in the state of georgia now, earlier today, we saw a lot of activity outside of the courthouse. We saw several witnesses coming in or out of the courthouse, including georgias former republican Lieutenant Governor jeff duncan. He testified today as he left the courthouse. He told us that this is an opportunity for the Republican Party to turn a corner. He called it the gop. 2. 01 of our producers asked him how he felt the testimony today in the indictment would impact Donald Trumps 2024 president ial election campaign, and he gave no answer to that. I also talked to a journalist who left the courthouse a short while ago. His name is george chiti. He sat inside of the court. Courthouse all day long today he was doing some live tweeting and i asked him if he felt like this was this process was sped up today and he says he felt like it was because initially he was supposed to come in and testify tomorrow. But then it was called in today he felt like this was speeded up. And earlier today, as we have been reporting, there were some documents that surfaced on the Fulton County website. One of those documents, it was appeared to be the same exact indictment that were looking at tonight. As far as the charges related to donald trump and those documents. Began circulating and being reported on because it looked as if it was an indictment against donald trump. All of a sudden, the Fulton County Clerks Office came out and said, no, those are fictitious documents. Dont Pay Attention to them. Well, now were looking at something rather similar tonight. So you know it had that event kind of raises the question of whether this this process was sped up today because somehow the indictment against donald trump was posted on the Fulton County website much earlier today, so we are trying to kind of sort out how that may have impact. Did the process here at the Fulton County website. The big thing right now traces. Of course. Were waiting from the Press Conference from the Fulton County District Attorney fani willis. Were likely going to get many more details into her investigation, trace and the details matter appear to have changed as we kind of go through the hours here. We were told earlier that what we anticipated was within three hours that the court clerk would come out and give us an idea of exactly what was inside the indictment. And then that changed and it was handed out again to reuters. That was who broke it first, reuters who again had this on earlier in the day, and then now were getting nothing but a Press Conference. Are you noticing the same thing . Kind of a change of events along the way, matt well, um roughly three hours ago. Give or take. The indictment was handed to the clerk. We saw that on video. We do have a team inside of the courthouse right now as well traced, um, and the clerk indicated that it could take up to three hours because our understanding is she had to manually enter the Indictment Documents into the system. And then we were told that there would be this pending Press Conference. That was our understanding throughout the day, so im not exactly sure whats going on behind the scenes, but everyone or nearly everyone involved seems like this kind of was sped up today. Including that person, that journalist who was subpoenaed. He walked out of the courthouse tonight and told us on the record that he thinks that this process was sped up. So it seems like somehow there was some some clerical error or something that went very wrong to do that that those Indictment Documents ended up on the website much earlier today against donald trump trace yeah. Matt finn back to you as the news breaks i want to bring in the anchor of special report. Brett baer, brett and you know, just matt. He brings up a very good point in the whole process here in the tiktok all day long where you talked about it on special report. The fact that it seems like reuters kind of broke this early, and then you had the court coming back by the way it was on the Fulton County courthouse website the dot gov website this indictment and then you had the courthouse coming out saying no, no, no, that was fictitious. Pay no attention to that. Then, of course when the release of the actual indictment a few minutes ago, brett it was broken again by reuters. I mean, it just seems to be, uh, oddly coincidental. Yeah tracy, just bizarre, certain circumstances. The clerk saying that what posted on the website was fictitious, but not getting about how they got to the website, so it was very bizarre , but it did speed up and we saw witnesses that were going to be called tomorrow get called today. They didnt get actually testify and everything sped up. And here we are at 11 p. M. Eastern time for a Press Conference at a courthouse that usually closes at five pm so why the rush . Who knows, but what we do know is now President Trump and 18. Others face dozens of specific charges here, including racketeering. Um dozens of their felonies, solicitation of violation of oath by a public officer. Conspiracy to commit forgery, first degree false statements. The indictment contains 41 criminal counts. It is 98 pages long. This is not a small operation here. And, um you just take a 30,000 ft view back and you say this is the fourth criminal indictment for a former president who is running to be president again. And the first trial. If its agreed to august 28th would be January 2nd 13 days before the iowa caucuses, and as i read through the indictment bread, you kind of you pointed out exactly whats in it and whos being indicted and whos being named and it points out that all of these are felonies, but on the first violation, which is the violation of the georgia rico racketeer influenced and corrupt organizations act, it says, serious felony and theres been a question brought up numerous times tonight. Whether the rico charge is a basis to get this thing sped up to get this thing in trial before the election happens. Whats your sense on that . Yeah well, ive listened to a lot of legal legal experts talk about that tonight and Alan Dershowitz and others said that rico can get you to the courtroom can get you to the trial, but really doesnt help you wanna peel perhaps, and sometimes falls apart. Um you have to look through all the specifics inside this indictment, and were just getting to the 98 pages. Right now. There was some reporting that they have some communications between the Trump Legal Team and the trump folks with this, um breach of, um, um election machines in Coffee County, georgia. That was an effort to get evidence about false claims that could be one of the actions were looking at. Were going to dig into the 98 pages. But what we can say is that there are not just not just the former president , but you have a lot of other named, uh people who are being charged here. Yeah, and lastly, before i let you go , bro. We talked about this with some of the legal minds earlier. But you bring in the trump camp in this and throughout the evening that kept saying we havent gotten any documents. We havent gotten any notice about this, and thats kind of unusual if you go through the rest of these four indictments, the president being indicted the fourth time tonight, but the other three there was notice. I mean, he knew and he posted on on social media that the indictment was coming and now the campus saying we didnt we didnt get any notice about this. This. Yeah not formal. But they did have a feeling that it was coming down either. Today or tomorrow. This is a different operation. This is a State Operation and were going to hear from fani willis very shortly as she lays out this case, but this will lead to an arrest. The sheriff there says theres going to be a mug shot , which would be different than weve seen in any of the federal cases or in manhattan and that theyre going to play it by the book as they do, however, if they do want to speed this up up, youre going to have to give the defense a chance to make a case and to make motions to a judge. It will go through the similar process that weve seen in the other three indictments. Brett baer Anchor Special Report back to you of the news breaks, and brett says we are awaiting that News Conference. We were told it would be at 20 minutes past the hour. It is now almost 10. Minutes past the hour, fani willis will address the media in about 10 minutes. Lets bring in former House Intelligence Committee, National Security adviser cash patel and article three project president mike davis cash to you first. I mean, kind of were brett and i were talking there about this this rico charge in here they note on the indictment. Serious felony against all the other charges. It says felony. This one says serious felony. Is it an effort to get this thing . Fast . Tracked cash. Its great to be with you trace and look as a former federal prosecutor and a Public Defender, probably the only person whos done both sides of the aisle. This is a hatchet job by the Fulton County d. A and i remind your audience at Fulton Countys 90 inclusive of the town of atlanta, which is an overwhelmingly majority district against donald trump, and i focus on a couple of things that came out of the indictment one the repeated mention of the word corrupt. Corrupt corrupt well. They have stigmatized and made it illegal in state court to declare a federal Election Outcome result that is a federal Law Violation that they have taken the state court. So anyone out there saying that this doesnt have any federal implications does not understand the process and the fact that they the court at 11 pm at night to put this out. Shows the urgency behind it. But more importantly, a rico case which usually does dozens of defendants, as is now being shown here is a case that takes 2 to 4 years at minimum in state court to adjudicate and that they are racing shows you that they wanted the indictment out. But there will be interlocutory appeals along this way that President Trumps defense team should file starting with the a legal disclosure of grand jury information in all 50 states and the Federal Courts that is a felony. For the District Attorney or any Court Officer to disclose grand jury information prematurely or at all, which, now we have confirmed they did to Media Outlets and other people along the way, so there needs to be an investigation by them. And im calling on congress because as a Committee Staff at the House Intelligence Committee and former doj guy i know that federal funding goes to these County Prosecutors for the prosecution of crimes and that is your jurisdictional financial nexus to get a review. By the gym, Jordan Committee or Commerce Committee , or what have you for a federal taxpayer dollars . And the intent requirement here, something that needs to be focused in a rico case. When you say someone is being corrupt, there needs to be the objective. Subjective standard. Donald trump has said repeatedly he won the president ial election. He believes that firmly in 2001, 5 and 17 when hillary clinton, senator Barbara Boxer Hakeem Jeffries and Speaker Pelosi declared those elections unlawful. And the outcome of those elections, not the appropriate results. None of those people were prosecuted in state or Federal Courts. So youre seeing a two tier system of justice here. Play out in this 98 page indictment. Lets move on to you, mike davis, because it really is. I mean cash brings up a good point on the whole concept where i was talking with brett about this earlier where the president s camp didnt seem to be getting this information. This notice that the indictment was coming down today or tonight, and yet you had reuters kind of releasing what appeared to be an official. Indictment document on the court website. The court never said it was hacked. It said it was fictitious. And now later tonight, the indictment comes down and they look eerily similar. Mike. Yeah this indictment is loud, long and lawless, and it is part of the democrats law Fair Campaign and several different jurisdictions across america. Several different democrats hellholes across america, including d c. New york and atlanta to take out President Trump through the legal system because they fear they cant beat President Trump on November 7th 2024. This is essentially theyre alleging a conspiracy of 19 people. Or violating 50 41 different felonies for the non crime of objecting to the president ial election, which is allowed by the electoral count act of 18 87 and twisting arms politically is allowed by the First Amendment. I hope President Trump moves forward and immediately with a motion to dismiss this lawless indictment. He has president ial immunity of his acting within his president ial powers or if hes acting within his private capacity. He has the First Amendment defense. So i want to get your take on this, mike. If i can very quickly because weve got the charges here. It looks like 11 or 12 of these charges. And i just want to put a couple of names on there. You have. Donald john trump, Rudy Giuliani, charles eastman, mark meadows, kenneth chesbro, jeffrey clarke, the list goes on and on, and im wondering why the long list and why the number of charges do you group them together . Do you try them separately . Whats the process here . And what can we look forward to in the days and months to come . This is a mess of a case. Its this will not hold up in if this will not hold up under the law, if it if it is not reversed by the georgia court, it will be reversed by the Supreme Court of the United States. The question is when whether its before the president ial election on November 7th 2024 or after but this is a shotgun approach by a democrat prosecutor who is campaigning on taking out President Trump through the Legal Process through law fair, she set up a website. Shes raising money off of this. This is a joke of a complaint and back to you now. Cash patel is the ease your take. Same as mike. I mean, is it one of those things where you think you know what . Theyve got a lot of names on this list. They get a lot of charges on this list. Whats the goal . Do you put them together . And you just told us earlier getting the is cases in state court is a lot longer than in a Federal Court. It just takes longer. So whats the hope . Here with this case . The hope is that they have issued what we call as prosecutors is Speaking Indictment and, as mike said, its loud and lawless and it shocks and all the conscience when you read it, but when you go to the u