Now, congressman . Well, neil, what i see right now is the senates not willing to work with the house of representatives. Im a no on the cr because i cant, in my right mind, allow this administration to destroy this country. We sent those Appropriation Bills over to chuck schumer. I highly recommend you get your house in order in the senate, pass those bills and get joe to sign it and 73 of this Discretionary Spending will be taken care of. 73 of the government will remain open. Chuck, go to work. Neil theres a lot of Finger Pointing back and forth and many say the house should get to work. The meeting, this one started about an hour and a half ago, Kevin Mccarthy wanted to call a member conference. Its just letting out right now. I dont know whats coming of it. Aisha hasney on capitol hill. The meeting just let out and a whole bunch of congressmen and women coming out and many of them looking, very, very frustrated and Marjorie Taylor greene came out and told reporters, its the same garbage, the same bs over and over and what she told us in that meeting there were a bunch of different cr, a bunch of shortterm Spending Bills that were being phofloated. And here is what could happen in the next few hours here. We might actually see a cr, a Continuing Resolution on the floor sometime today. We could see a vote scheduled for that in the next couple of minutes here. The idea here is to put up a shortterm Spending Bill about 45 days long that includes disaster aid, but would not include ukraine funding and also, would not include border security. Now, this would come up under a Suspension Rule and what that basically means, neil, you dont need to go through the rules committee. What you need is a twothirds vote and that means you need democrats. The g. O. P. Essentially daring democrats to vote this down and well see if the holdouts basically decide theyre not going to vote on this. I can tell you a lot of folks came out frustrated and fed up with the entire situation and how they got here in the first place. Listen to this. We have one job and by law, we have one job, and that is to pass 12 appropriations and one budget and yet, here we are. Well, here is what will happen we do a 14day. Well be back. Everybody will go home and come back on the 12th or 13th day and start working on it. And thats what this is about. Sitting around wringing of hands and how yelling at the folks that want to keep their word to their constituents. Thats not the way. Neil, well toss it back to you because i believe the speaker is speaking right now. Neil indeed he is. Great reporting. Now to the speaker. Keeping the government open while we continue to do our work to end the wasteful spending and the wokism and most important, secure our border. Did you get any assurances from any the republican holdouts that theyll support this. Look, ive tried for eight months, it took me a long time to finally get the Appropriation Bills on the floor, they delayed. I tried yesterday with the most conservative Stop Gap Bill that i could find to stop at the border and i couldnt get 200 republicans on. This is on suspension, it takes a higher threshold. Im asking the republicans and democrats alike, put your partisanship away, and focus on the American Public. How can you in good conscience think of the men and women who volunteer to risk their lives to defend us to say they cant be paid, while we work out our differences . That is unfair. I cannot do that to our men and women in uniform so were going to keep government open while we work our differences out and secure our borders. Do you worry about theyll try to remove you . You know what . If somebody wants to remove because i want to be the adult in the room, go ahead and try. But i think this countrys too important and i will stand with our military, ill stand with our Border Agents. Ill stand with those that have to get their medicine from government as well. I think thats too important. We have done 70 more than 70 of our job where the senate has done nothing. The senate cant get something to the floor in time. We can. And now what . If i have to risk my job for standing up for the American Public, i will do that. And the house, have you talked to jeffries or any democrats whether they will support this. I talked to hakeem yesterday, i talked to a number of democrats yesterday, they kept, from a standpoint, didnt want they want to do ukraine as well. I think that can have at a different day. Ive watched the senate, they said lets wait for the senate. The senate cannot bring us a bill before shutdown. They cannot get government will shut down if we wait. I do not want that on our watch. I think this countrys too important. I know the house has done their work. The senate has not. The senate hasnt passed one Appropriation Bill and all of you have written these great raving stories how great the Appropriation Process is going in the senate. Theyve tried all month. They said they could get something going here. They cant get anything to us. So now what . Ill put the American People first. We will finish our job. I will keep the house in to keep working on our Appropriation Bills, get it done during that time. But the Senate Better get their work done and the border has got to get secure. If this bill goes down, is there a plan b . Well, if this bill goes down, tell me why do people want to have government shut down. That will be on the individuals. It wouldnt just be because of the democrats. You need democrats and republicans to vote for this bill. Thats right, thats right. So if democrats dont want if democrats want to shut the government down theyd vote against this bill. Tell me what to argue if were putting a Stop Gap Measure with no politics in it that says we will continue Funding Government exactly as it is right now for 45 days while we finish our job. The only thing it will do differently, those who have suffered through a flood, through a fire and others, where the disaster money is not there, well make sure the disaster money is there so they dont get punished. Well look at our troops in the eye to say, yes, you dont have to worry about how youre going to make your rent. Were going to finish our job. Were going to secure our borders. Were going to look at the Border Agents that come back bloody securing our country and say, we dont want you in doing your job, worrying about whether youre going to be able to make your car payment. Were going to do our job. Were going to be adults in the room, and were going to keep government open while we solve this problem. Yes, and as we go through these preparation bills, the most conservative that ever passed. You dont realize what weve achieved. The fstop bill the first time passed in 16 years. Were achieving things. I do not want to stop our momentum and thats the way well be able to shut down the border. And if we dont get this, then the border is further open. The president wants to ignore that, were not going to let him. Hes the president of the United States, what has he done to keep the government open. Well put something on the floor to pay our troops and if he wants to lobby against it and tell democrats to vote go ens against it, then its on him. Neil unless theres a miracle here, a Government Shutdown seems to be on. Were hearing now that theyre still going to try to get the vote on what they call a clean cr, Continuing Resolution, that will include disaster aid, but no ukraine aid, and thats going to be an uphill climb to put it mildly. You heard the speaker make a reference so hes been talking to hakeem jeffries, the democratic leader, on this process going forward, seems to think its a waste of time to depend on the senate for a hail mary, it wouldnt be in time to avoid a shutdown. If we get a shutdown, that happens at midnight tonight. All federal employees deemed nonessential would be furloughed. And they could get the back pay when it opens. And the essential workers will receive back pay once the shut down ends as well. Those on social security, medicaid, medicare, the payments will still be distributed, shutdown or not. Snap benefits, food or related berths would be continued to be distributed during this time although it gets murky how much longer they can do that and most National Parks will be closed remainder accessible to the public again with reduced services and other daily, more familiar ways to communicate or hear from the federal government, the u. S. Postal service, for example, will operate as former. Federal agencies and the like will shut down in a dominolike fashion. I could get to you the perceived rollout for that. Theyre hoping to avoid that right now. Senator mike braun joins us from the state of indiana. Havent talked to you for a while. Good to be on. Neil youre not keen on this measure, right . Well, for me, its mostly the process. Youve got to remember, this should have started october 1st of 2022. It is so broken in both the house and the senate. The senates probably worse than the house in terms of budgets, neil. When i was a State Legislator we did budgets, we did a biannium bill, talked to the stake holders. Theres no process here, we havent done a budget weve adhered to since the late 90s. I listened to kevin that sounds about as good a way for us to get to avoid a shutdown, depends is your priority to keep the government going. I wish we had a bill out there, im for a no Government Shutdown bill. This is a bill that would eliminate this drama at the end of the bill. And no budget, no paycheck then youd see things getting done on time and ill end with this in terms of the malaise weve got. When i got here five years ago, the default was borrow money. It was a trillion dollars a year. Its now a trillion dollars every six months. Regardless what you believe the federal government should do, its not good for the institution, its terrible for america, and we are in a place thats disgusting. I think the most people out there watching it. Neil senator, i know your Vantage Point is the United States senate, but there has been this push now among more conservative members and those, for example, down on the freedom caucus, what have you. Theyve had it with Kevin Mccarthy to your point the outset of this, we knew this date was coming, so did he. He could have prepared better and he did not. What do you think of that and that he should go . Well, i think when youre bragging about what weve done in the senate, we havent gotten a bill really passed, okay. Hes gotten six or seven Appropriation Bills done. So, hes improved, but the whole system is broken. Why are we doing this at the tail end of your fiscal year . And since ive been here we generally dont get this resolved into the new fiscal year, nothing to brag about in either chamber. The American Public is going to have to start wondering who are we sending here . Do we need term limits . Do we need a balanced budget or statute amendment . I think thats the only thing that keeps this place in order. No other place functions like it. Neil you know, many republicans, maybe more moderate, i dont know how you want to classify them, senator, have been showing their frustration with the process. A couple of days ago i had mike lawler on, the republican new yorker, flipped that 17th District seat and you keep running lunatics, youre going to be in this position. This is not republican conservativism, this is stupidity. What do you think of that . Some of that extreme drama i dont think is fruitful either, but what are you going to do to change a system that looks like it doesnt want to change itself . Sooner or later, well have to do something. Were borrowing 30 cents of every dollar we spend here. I dont think thats emphasized enough because whenever i talk to people back in indiana if theyre for something, i said, ill say, would you be for it if you knew we were borrowing 100 of the money . Theyre fab fabergasted. Theyre shocked. And try to add up the interest when you put 1 of 33 trillion. Interest rates have gone up 5 . That will crowd out all domestic and Defense Spending thats discretionary and thats right around the corner. So somethings got to give soon. Neil and youre right to say that, and your Business Background is coming in and 1 1 2 trillion to that debt pie to your point. And im curious what you make i apologize i know youre on the senate side. Matt gaetz might be entertaining a run for governor of florida year after next. Hes been down on caving on these issues and that they dont on the moderate side they dont like that message and they think its divisive and hurtful to the party. What do you think . I think that the margin that kevin has to deal with, thats probably not fair. Thats as slim as it can be, thats a rowdy crew over there, anyway. If he intends to come back and run for governor, i think the approach for most states, theyre looking for problems to be solved. Theyre not looking for this kind of drama. And i can tell you in the three years i spent in our state legislature, we get things done. Weve got a balanced budget amendment. We always have a surplus. It gives us the ability to get a good return on investment and live within our means. Probably focused on that, not the drama that we have here. And sooner or later, the American Public is going to have to put two and two together, what weve got is not working. Somethings got to change and the people that you need to blame are the ones that have been running the show here on both sides of the aisle. Neil all right, senator. Thank you very much for taking the time. Meek braun of indiana. You bet. Neil mike braun of indiana. And i want to go another mike who sits on the Senate Banking committee. Senator rounds, what do you think . Well, good morning. Were here on a saturday and were trying to fix a mess that has got less than an about 12 hours to go before we shut down government. Its not the place that any of us want to be in. Senate and the house have different approaches. Nonetheless, the senate right now is going to be taking a look at a Continuing Resolution that would at least sustain government for the next 45 days. The house has yet to determine quite what they want to do. We like a lot of the ideas that theyve come up with in terms of reducing some of the spending that theyve been after for the full year, but in the senate we also recognize that the republicans dont control the floor. So weve got to work with democrats and find a process forward and still fund the government for the next year. Its not been an easy process so far, but weve just got to continue working at it. Neil if i heard Kevin Mccarthy correctly, senator, time is not on even the senates side if you came to agreement on something, getting that vote on approval, theres not enough time before the government would for even a limited time shut through. Yeah, if you use what is unless you get unanimous consent to bring it to the floor, you would have a problem. But that doesnt mean that we shouldnt at least take the next steps because if we dont start now, its just that much longer. We have been basically watching and trying to figure out what would be the best for the speaker to be able to get his team together. We actually held up on part of what we have in the senate, hoping that it would give the house an opportunity to actually put together a package. He hasnt been able to get that done yet and so, the next best is to at least get something from the senate to the house for them to at least consider. This he may not like it, you know, its a bipartisan effort and includes some things that they dont like, but at least then theyd be able to come back, perhaps conference with it or bring it to the floor and see if they can come up with a total vote that would pass it with twothirds. Neil senator, could you vote for something that doesnt include aid to ukraine . On a shortterm basis i could. Look, supporting the effort in ukraine is longterm critical to our national interest, but if it means doing a shorter term in order for us to get the regular appropriations done, yeah, i could. The question is, is can the house actually pass one either way. So, hopefully right now theyll try again. Well give them an opportunity to see if they can put together a Continuing Resolution that allows both the house and the senate to get through all 12 Appropriation Bills and if thats the case, then weve at least succeeded in moving forward appropriately. If they cant get that done, we will have the bill coming from the senate. It does include ukraine funding for about 45 days and the house then would have to consider what they want to do with it. Either way, i think weve got to do our best to try to continue the operations for government during this time in which we have those continued negotiations. Neil the reason why i mention the ukrainian thing, its even divisive among fellow republicans, sir, who say that we dont want to throw good money after bad. I think a third, half of the president ial candidates on the republican side arent too keen on it, saying its got to stop. Where are you on this . Does it worry you . Look, first, we dont want ukraine to fall and we most certainly want to stop putin in his tracks right now. I think where the administration has fallen down is that they have not laid out a plan to us either in a classified setting or otherwise, as to what the end result should be. How do we get to an end result that were all satisfie