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Window the star witness in the new york versus trump trial, karen at the stand and leaving the question on many minds if the prosecutions entire case comes down to the word of convicted felon Michael Cohen. Is not a problem . Welcome everyone, im sandra smith in for neil cavuto and this is your world go cohens sent former President Donald Trump expected to speak a short time from now when that happens, we are honoured. First lets get right to nate foy with outside the courthouse the very latest after a brief break in the court. What do you know, nate . Michael cohen right now is talking about not receiving their role in former President Donald Trump is max white house administration. He claims that he pitched the role of personal attorney to the president , saying that mr trump was an enigma and that he understood him because of how closely he worked with him on a daytoday basis and this all comes after cohen detailed his 130,000dollar payment to Adult Film Actress Stormy Daniels to suppress her story about an alleged affair with trump that trump denies. Karen claims he told trump before making a payment and the former Trump Organization cfo alan weiss and bert promised cohen hell be paid back. When said he telling the Court Everything required mr trump sign off, on top of that i wanted to money back there go cohen said he didnt let the bank know what the payments were really about because he wanted to protect trump and also to make sure that the payment went through quickly. Now cohen claims, and wanted a story suppress because he worried about his electability with a woman particularly after the release of the Access Hollywood tape. Trump denies ever having an affair with daniels. Cohen has been understand all day, lawyers for trump have yet to begin their crossexamination. Expected to focus on cohens criminal history. Is a convicted felon, hes admitted to lying under oath that several times a prosecutor say that he did that in the passed to protect trump. The most recent thing coming out of courtroom right now is going detailing in 2016 bonus, something that he said he was beyond angry about. So he is expected not to go into how he was paid back for his wiring twaddle from actress Stormy Daniels number s trump reimburse him for a course trumps lawyers will back on that in crossexamination. Sandra . Sandra we are getting more updates as you are speaking, nate foy outside the white house there, thank you. And without notice former federal prosecutor Andrew Cherkasky and newark Trial Attorney rebecca rose of andrew coe your take on how this is going so far today. There is still nothing new about the criminality of what donald trump allegedly did hear. The idea of having form discussion money payment arrangement, it seems to be the work of an attorney. We keep calling Michael Cohen effexor but he is a fixer attorney. He is committing and engaging in Legal Services for donald young. So i still havent seen the prosecutors close the loop on that very issue as to why those entries in Donald Trumps Business Records that he was paying Legal Expenses is somehow fraudulent. It seems to be quite accurate under all of the testimony and instead all we are getting is this idea of what goes on behind the scenes as i guess the portable as the prosecutors might want that to be but no evidence of guilt. Sandra just getting a bit of a real hear from Carrie 2slgbtqia who is in the Overflow Room there in the courthouse is this an ongoing, she says there is an exchange about the christmas bonus cash is described in the former President Donald Trump as being very alert during this exchange, leaning over at one point to Say Something to his lawyer, todd blanche. Cohan i just mentioned wanting the title personal attorney for the president while bert and his family. Rebecca, there is no doubt that there has been a lot of focus on the part of the defence to poke holes in Michael Cohens credibility. Your take on how this is going . Look, my thinking that once we see crossex crossexamination, sandra, this is going to be holes bigger than swiss cheese. This man is a convicted fe felon, he has admitted lying under oath. He is not credible. To what the defence will come in and attack every aspect of what hes saying. Number 2 reason why he is not credible is because he aggressively posts on social media his hate for donald trump german so when you put those two things together, a witness whos got not credible and the witness who hates the defendant, it doesnt create testimony that can be believed by irregular person whos sitting in the jury. What has Michael Cohen said other than i hate him, i have and asked the grey cup i hope heres up in jail, will will you say anything, will you like . There will be the line of questioning that the defence will take. But Michael Gordon will lie again donald young convicted. Sandra andrew at one point i remember one of the update coming from Carrie Outside inside the courthouse noting that Instructor Listening to cool hand how desperate he seemed for trumps approval and affirmation and that he would do anything for it, culminating in him taking him out a Home Equity Line of credit to the care of his boss the business. To circle back, Carrie Kaposi that she should have that have been many twists and turns today, the exposure, andrew. He certainly seems obsessed with donald trump. Desperate for a position in washington, desperate for the approval of donald trump. Weve been hearing those courts all day that he was looking for the boss to the job to him and that that was what he was living for 14 years working for him and so that shows that Michael Gordon could have variable been acting out on his own in many instances and i agree entirely with what rebecca is saying about the credibility issues that will be undoubtedly exposed in crossexamination but we really have to keep coming back to the fact nothing he said singular actually suggest criminal behaviour. It suggests the idea that they were engaged in this Nondisclosure Agreement, he was acting as an attorney. Legal services. So even though he was so all the credibly the other side which will of course be demolished, hes still not adding anything to the actual criminal elements here. Sandra as we await for the court to wrap your car we know we are probably minutes away from that happening and we are expecting the former president , donald trump, to speak. I want to ask you both about something that he says said earlier this morning. Take a lesson here. Mr. Trump elderly what, the Appellate Division capitalist system in because what this judge is getting away with is this graceful. Sandra so Andrew Oke Start with you mack do you believe that that can happen, the judges should step in because what the judges that is getting away with is this repulsion the former president . I think that the Applet Division looks like they were kind of the latest chemical latest chemical arena trial wraps up before their purse to make a decision. The gag order is in my view absolutely unconstitutional. Is an infringement on his first amendments right,s speech and not just normal and so im disappointed there is this long in the game before the division has even weighed in on this, that is gone on this long but i dont expect much from them by the end of this trail although i hope for rent, im sceptical. Sandra rebecca . Grew agree with andrew. It seems like the Appellate Division wants to put this until there is a verdict. Of course, at which time if there is a guilty verdict there will be an immediate appeal to the Appellate Division. If they upheld the guilty verdict will go to the court of appeals in new york and possibly the supreme court, i believe, will take this up on constitutional grounds for the gag order and for unfair trial but as at this point it doesnt look like the Appellate Division wants to get involved. You want to allow one michelin to just run a mark and allow this lack unconstitutional right to continue in this courtroom. The lack of any respect for the constitution and the lack of protection that constitution allows the president , the former president , are not allowing that in this courtroom and it seemed like the Appellate Division is just letting that happen. Sandra it looks like there is some more exchange is happening right now at the First Republic Bank Statement and the backandforth that happened there. Will have more updates for our viewers in this moment on that. Rebecca, andrew, we appreciate you joining us. As we await for court to wrap and donald trump to speak, our new glasses its in the prosecution interest make us painful as possible for Michael Cohen today remarked what does he mean by that . Will find out. Ringing limu, someone needs to customize and save hundreds on Car Insurance with liberty mutual. Lets fly Inaudible Sounds chief doug. Inaudible Sounds ooooo ah. Elevator Doors Opening Inaudible Sounds i thought you were right behind me. Only pay for what you need. 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So if thats the case and youve got to bring out all the negatives, every bad thing anyone might want to say about cohen as an effort to inoculate him for the enable inevitable attacks that will occur on this could ability. Number will just wait i think really for the crossexamination to start. I dont think from what weve heard in the courtroom that Michael Cohen has dropped any blockbusters that we are learning anything more more new. What we are really going to sandra affected circle back on that because it sounds pretty shocking and counterintuitive for the prosecution to make this as painful as possible on their star witness, your point is that they would want to get all the bad stuff out, considering he is a perjurer and convicted fraudster, get all the bad stuff out, make it as painful or possible and then rebuild his reputation in front of the jury . Is that your point . Yes. There is actually a common trial tactic when you have a problematic witness like i guess its its much better for the prosecution and you can do it under your own control and yes as you said exactly, rebuild his credibility rather than but hand over, this guy is such a wonderful guy he tell the truth all the time and have Donald Trumps lawyers destroy him. And back you want to take on the wind out of sales, out of the defence and again personally i dont think this will be possible because cohan is such a fraud flawed witness. Other judges and other courts have said he is a lawyer. So once hes been convicted of forgery, once hes been convicted of tax fraud and division, how can the jury really believe anything he saying . Sandra pretty much you are saying they are setting up for something that wont work for the prosecutions case. I think this is a very this is why this case is always in Trouble Letters on the legal problems where they are trying the prosecution is trying to incorporate the federal election crime which they are not allowed to prosecute but just on the basic facts. I think that really explains the story of what we are seeing the last . Weeks which is the really cant get a conviction right now on the facts they have some and say theyre trying to drag donald trump threw mud, destroys character got me the jury hate him. And then want to convict him of something or even may be try to go gold trump testifying, waving his fifth amendment rights. Sandra doocy there is a possibility . You know, with donald trump, he has a repetition of not listening to his lawyers. He is the worst client you would ever want as a lawyer. And so his lawyers i am sure have explained to him that you should take the stand. But you has taken a stand in previous cases. You may think he can talk his way out of this. I think this is really dangerous crap that is being set for him and i hope that he doesnt take the bait. Sandra really interesting. I couldnt help but think when we let into you with this whole idea that the prosecution is making it as painful as possible because its who theyve got, as their star witness because it or anybody else . No. This is the thing. The real crime here is not whether donald trump had an affair with Stormy Daniels. The real crime here is not whether trump made a recent Nondisclosure Agreement with Stormy Daniels or even had her paid. That is all legal. The crime in did donald trump intentionally tried to commit fraud through this Bookkeeping Error Bookkeeping Allegation to try to cover up a larger crime which, again, the prosecution is not constitutionally allowed to charge. So this is all theyve got. The prosecution said he will rest this week. I think youre probably going to see at least two more names of cohen from the prosecution and another day of two of crossexamination. That brings us to thursday. So i dont really see what else prosecution has they got no secret witness, about the smoking gun. In fact, this whole lot two weeks has laid bare how weak this case was and how he associate say it, how partisan intent to bring it in the first place. Sandra i mean, im looking for the update coming out of the courtroom right now. Exhibit 35 is a Bank Statement for First Republic showing a deposi31 transfer 130,000. Both cohen and Weitzel Burke wrote on this document i mean, im looking through whats happening in im wondering whether getting with this. Cohen says total due to redfish was 50,000 from two years earlier. These are the exchange is. Koen senft 133,000 was for the nda. Or adding it up. Weitzel burke sent to groups of her double it for this is the backandforth in the exchange that is happening as Michael Cohen continues to understand at this hour. Final thought from you, john . Final thought is this is why we crossed the rubicon of prosecuting a former president for the first time how this is why we will of the criminal Justice System to interfere within the election of the president this year . This has been a disaster for the prosecution and i hope it doesnt four, retaliation will people start red states caribou states will start prosecution residents to achieve some kind of electoral outcome which is something we never did in our 20 year 2020 year cerebral public. Sandra will sandra as i mentioned todays session is expected to wrap sharply possibly in the next ten minutes or so and the former precedents is set to make remarks when he emerges from that courtroom. Those doors right there. When he does, where it we are there. 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