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FOXNEWSW Your July 3, 2024

Even though it appears that it could soon be ending, and we are live in New York City with every nasty detail. Donald trump could emerge from the courthouse any day now. Defense now presenting its case after the prosecution rests, calling Legal Advisor to Michael Cohen, bob costello, to the stand. It comes as cohen admits under oath that he stole money from the trump administration. So what goes next . Lets get right to it with nate foy. Whats the latest, nate . Its been a busy day for sure, neil. And bob costello is talking about his conversations with Michael Cohen. He described cohen has manic during those conversations, pacing back and forth. And he just said cohen told him during that time that trump knew nothing about the Stormy Daniels deal. Judge marchand is allowing trumps lawyer to ask costello around a Pressure Campaign theory. Marchand said Costello Cannot testify about cohens State Of Mind during those 2018 meetings. During cohens crossexamination today, he admitted he knew at the time his conversations with costello were protected under his Attorney Client privilege. And cohen earlier said that he lied to costello because he thought that costello might funnel information to trump. Separately cohen testified he stole money from the trump administration, received hundreds of thousands of dollars from other clients for very limited legal work. He claims he did limited work for trump in 2017. Trump says those payments are legitimate. Cohen says they are Reimbursement Payments for the Stormy Daniels deal. Our legal experts say trump testifying himself would be a bad move, considering how much judge marchand would allow during that questioning. And as you see video of former President Trump speaking after court, which has been the case every single day so far. We are expecting that again at 4 30 after court ends for the day. Neil so it sounds like even with the extra witnesses and these unexpected developments, that 4 30 wrapup is still on . For now we are expecting former President Trump to speak at 4 30. Thats the last timeline that weve been given. But weve also seen several times that court has extended past then. Neil thank you, my friend. Lets go to these two legal eagles. I want to go on the wisdom of the defense. I guess it doesnt want to appear to spike the ball, even though a lot of people say they have the edge here. They want to make sure they have this tied down, and by going to these extra witnesses, including bob costello, the early Legal Advisor to Michael Cohen. Whats the risk in that . The risk is always that he will bring up information that hurts the case. In this case, the defense is presenting that a reasonable doubt has not been a case has not been made Beyond A Reasonable Doubt by the prosecution. So what the problem could be is that now we have another voice. We have more information when we think and most of the legal analysts believe no case was made by the prosecution up until now. I mean, theres nothing here, neil. Its like a house of cards. You blow on it, it all falls down. There is nothing legal that the prosecution has proven. Having heard bob costello already, because hes been on this channel for the last few days, he is credible. He has information that is factual. It is believable. I dont think in any way he can hurt the defenses chances of an acquittal or the best Case Scenario of an acquittal in this matter. There was this questioning of a new witness, daniel sitko. A paralegal. So what was the wisdom in bringing him up . What did they want to prove and or show there . I dont think his testimony is as crucial as either bob costello or maybe bob smith, who could be the next one to come up to testify about federal election law. I think he was testifying about phone logs and documents, just that they existed. But he wasnt testifying as a paralegal, hes just in charge of documents. Hes not actually testifying about the truth of anything. I think, of course, the defense is still trying to show that Michael Cohen is a liar. And not just a convicted purgerer but also is lying in the context of what hes saying in this courtroom about phone calls, about checks, and now were going toll hear from bob costello about lying about his actual story and his incentives for telling the truth then and not now. Neil in the case of costello, early on through 70 odd conversations and the rest, he had been told by Michael Cohen, i have nothing on donald trump. And lets say costello reiterates that and the jurors hear that. And then theres this side issue with Rudy Giuliani that could open up, potentially, a legal pandoras box; couldnt it . It could, but i think the defense will focus on the interaction between cohen and costello regarding cohens Manic Behavior and his desire to get off on anything, any possibility he could, when the feds came and raided his home and his office. And costello has basically said that he asked Michael Cohen over ten times, repeatedly, is there anything that can help you in this federal case in 2018. Michael cohen kept saying no. I have nothing on trump. Thats the Quote Over And over. So what were going to hear and what the jury is going to hear is these are two very different stories. Michael cohen, convicted felon, convicted liar. And then we have an attorney what ran a very prestigious office in new york saying i met with this man. And he told me then when he had everything to lose that there was nothing he could offer against trump. This is damning testimony, and it very much undercuts the prosecutions case. Neil going through the numbers, i guess the prosecution has called about 20 witnesses, maybe more. Some of the more prominent ones, Michael Cohen and Stormy Daniels. The defense, a precious few. Theyve only accelerated today. What is the risk in the Defense Doing . Youre a darn good lawyer in your own right; would you risk widening this out . As you said, you dont want to look like youre spiking the ball. You dont want to go after Michael Cohen so badly that the jury might actually feel sympathy for him. Youve already shown he has a horrible record. How much further do you need to go to attack his credibility . I think costello is good because this is is a guy who made a living as deputy chief of the criminal division. A guy who made his living telling the truth to new york juries, and youre going to put him sidebyside to Michael Cohen who seemed to make a living by lying to people. That contrast is enough. And to end the defense quickly shows a lot of confidence. It shows that the defense thinks that the prosecution has not carried proof Beyond A Reasonable Doubt of committing any crimes. And thats what the prosecution requires. Neil were just getting word that the judge is reprimanding costello. I dont know whats behind that. Any ideas . It could be that bob costello is adding information. I know the judge had restricted his commentary and responses to not include Michael Cohens State Of Mind. Possibly bob costello is adding into his testimony the State Of Mind being manic, pacing quite desperate. And possibly thats what the judge is doing. Look, the judge here is trying to restrict anything that helps donald trump. Weve seen that over and over. I mean, he has rulings that just really hurt the defense. But bob costello is probably very adept at getting his point across to a jury, and i think he will do so very well. Neil he is unflappable, if nothing else. I had the luck of being on the same fox program he spoke on a few weeks ago. I said, trumps guys need to get this guy before a jury. I think the judge cutting him off and limiting him will be very frustrating for the jury. Why isnt the judge telling him tell the whole story after the same judge let Stormy Daniels wander all around gods green earth giving her own testimony. So this could backfire for the judge. Neil thank you both very much. Great insight on all of this. Martha maccallum with us right now. Anchor of the story. She has a great project shes working on. I do want to talk to you about that. It looks really intriguing; i love when you do these things. But some of the characters here, martha, are not the greatest. There are a lot of risks theyre taking here. Michael cohen front and center. We thought we learned it all, and now reports that he stole money from the trump organization. It doesnt get anymore surreal than that. Martha we have such great reporters and producers in the room there, and im just going through what theyre saying. It was a hot scene in there. They cleared the entire courtroom. They had the press leave so the judge could marchand could reprimand costello. Because the prosecution and the judge kept cutting him off when he was trying to talk. And when they cut him off, he was blurting out his answers anymore. He just wants the jury to hear what he has to say even though hes being cut off. Now people are coming back into the courtroom, so well see what happens now with costello. But clearly it got very heated in there just now. Neil we accept that at face value. The judge didnt seem to have any problems letting Stormy Daniels talk and talk and talk. And even some of the comments made. The fact of the matter is he would pick and choose who he would interrupt and why. But whatever costello is saying, that gets under his skin. Martha youre so right. Stormy daniels detailed the sha shampoo. He said, shes getting a little far field here so try to reign her in. But that is not the demeanor at all. Any jury can see that these situations are being treated very differently between the defense and the prosecution. And how that registers and sits with them, only those 12 people know. And several alternatives who are in there. Neil the benefit of me being so old is i remember cases that were very different than this one. But i remember Ronald Reagans secretary being brought up. And i remember the buildup was such that he was going to be in jail for the rest of his life. He was exonerated on all charges and famously said, how do i get my good name back. All the legal experts at that time for saying hes toast and the prosecution has this case made. But they didnt. Exonerated on all counts. I understand the defenses actions here to call in other witnesses to seal the deal. But thats a delicate threading of the needle, isnt it . Martha yeah, it is. I imagine that former President Trump probably saw Robert Costello over the past few days and said, youre going to put him on the stand. This guy is really good and saying everything that we need to hear to close this case. Thats just my guess, as weve all seen and covered him over all these years. But the jury, how does this sit with them . Do they see it as hes tough on the defense and not so tough on the prosecution. Or do they see costello as being hostile and out of order in this situation . Thats something thats hard to know. I was trying to read their faces. Theyre going to deliberate soon and well see whats in their hearts and minds having watched all of this up close. Neil what i want to get from you and you raised this on your show. You just touched on it now. Costello is there because donald trump wanted him there. And the Defense Lawyers might be saying, we can see the wisdom of that. Even though they might not. But what do you make around the role Behind The Scenes donald trump is playing here . Encouraging this guy to get on. Martha i just say that based on covering him all these years. He does not sit back. Hes not the type of client, i would imagine, with his team whos going to sit back and say, you guys are the experts so do what you want. Im sure he does to some extent, but when this is the last moment and this is the final thing the jurors are going to hear by the way, cohen told costello over and over again that trump wasnt aware of the payments. This is crucial. This is central to this case. It wouldnt surprise me that this person who is a very hardened counterpuncher would not want his defense team to stand up after the prosecution rested and say were done. I could be wrong. Neil and it doesnt extend to necessarily him testifying himself. But i want to go back to your project now. Tell us a little bit about this. Martha i spent a lot of time interviewing members of The Greatest Generation over the last member years. I was talking to one of them after his father tom rice passed away, and he said, martha, my dad was on his final journey in this life. And i thought youre so right. And we need to record the voices of these men before they go. Fortunately i had the honor of interviewing tom rice several times. But i said, lets sit down with as many as we can get and have them tell us the story of The European Theatre in their own voice based on their own experience. And we just dropped on fox nation the pacific theatre. Three episodes each. These men tell the story. I am very proud in this documentary because all i did was try to get them to talk about their stories and draw them out a little bit. But they are so remarkable, these men. And two of them are going to be with us in normandy for june 6th for the anniversary of dday. The 80th anniversary. This is clearly the last time you are actually going to see some of these men return to normandy for this 80th anniversary. I think its going to be a historic moment to be with them there. Neil its remarkable. We do have the dna of that generation, if we just recognize that. Martha we just have to scrape Everything Else out of the way and see if it can rise to the surface. You do every day, neil. Neil thank you. The final journey of The Greatest Generation is available now. You can tell its a real labour of love from martha. And this is a generation thats worth it. They dont like to yell or brag or do any of that. All right, we are appreciating right now the time constraints outside a new york courthouse where were expecting to hear from donald trump soon. A lot of nastiness back and forth here. After this. Fisher Investments at Fisher Investments we may look like other Money Managers, but were different. other Money Manager you cant be that different. Fisher Investments we are. We have a team of specialists not only in investing, but also also in financial and Estate Planning and more. other Money Manager your clients rely on you for all that . Fisher Investments yes. 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