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GBN Jacob July 3, 2024

A former director of Public Prosecutions, he knows the importance of Security First hand. But rishi sunak says only the conservatives have bold ideas for the future. Ideas for the future. Despite having 14 years with nothing to do but think about the future , labour have almost the future, labour have almost nothing to say about it. No nothing to say about it. No plans for our border, no plans for our energy security, no plans for our economy either. And no principles either. Keir starmer has gone from embracing Jeremy Corbyn to Natalie Elphicke , all in the cynical elphicke, all in the cynical pursuit of power at any price. So labour have no ideas what they did have. They view turned on. The Health Secretary has defended the governments record on Maternity Care after a major new report revealed endemic failures at hospitals. It found mums to be are often treated as an inconvenience, with some women mocked or shouted at and denied basic needs such as pain relief. The birth trauma inquiry is calling for a National Plan to improve services led by a new maternity commissioner, who would report directly to the Prime Minister to the us. Now and Donald Trumps former lawyer, Michael Cohen has taken to the witness stand at his criminal trial. Hes told jurors today he secretly colluded with mr trump and a tabloid publisher to suppress negative stories that could damage trumps 2016 campaign. Mr cohen used to be one of the former president s most trusted colleagues, but hes now the prosecutions star witness. As the so called hush witness. As the so called hush money trial enters its fifth week, a man is facing life in prison for murdering a woman dunng prison for murdering a woman during a series of Violent Attacks in south london. 34 year old mohamed noor was armed with a makeshift blade when he attacked johanna kwasi watchdog which. 7 attacked johanna kwasi watchdog which . In broad daylight last may. He admitted her murder and to having a blade made from scissors, but denied carrying out similar attacks. In the days out similar attacks. In the days before her death. The king has before her death. The king has officially handed over the role officially handed over the role of colonel in chief of the Army Air Corps to the prince of wales , in a rare engagement involving both the current monarch and his heir, his majesty formally handed over the title hes held for the past 32 years. The king said it was a great joy to meet servicemen during todays visit to Middle Wallop in hampshire. Prince william will now represent the armys air wing, which includes the unit once served by his brother. Those are served by his brother. Those are the top stories for all the latest sign up to gb news alerts. Just scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. Common alerts now its back to christopher. Christopher. Welcome back to state of the nation. Now, earlier today, a court in Northern Ireland might have dealt a significant blow to rishi sunaks rwanda plan after the dublin government claimed that 80 of recent arrivals of Asylum Seekers in ireland had crossed the border from the north. The court ruled that the uk government will not be allowed to deport migrants to rwanda under the illegal migration act, so if rules apply in mainland britain , but not in in mainland britain, but not in Northern Ireland, can we really say this is a United Kingdom . Many unionists would doubt that and would say, as a consequence of rishi sunaks Windsor Framework, the judge in question, mrjustice humphreys, also argued that parts of the act were incompatible with the European Convention on human rights. But we knew that already, didnt we . Because part of the purpose of the safety of rwanda bill now an act was to satisfy concerns raised by strasbourg. But the real question is this if parliament is sovereign, why is the judge in the uk citing a Foreign Court well written . If the Windsor Framework, the agreement signed by the Prime Minister, rishi sunak, and ursula von der leyen, the Eu Commission chief last yean the Eu Commission chief last year, which finalised the status of Northern Ireland in the post brexit agreement, is that eu law is supreme in Northern Ireland. Brexit. Turns out only to be for those in england , to be for those in england, scotland and wales, but not in Northern Ireland. Therefore for the whole of the uk, sir Jacob Rees Mogg , normally the rees mogg, normally the presenter of this programme, warned this would happen and thats why he and other tory and dup mps voted against that Windsor Framework. They argued that Boris Johnsons original plan was preferable. This was through the Northern Ireland protocol bill, which was in the house of lords at the time of the Windsor Framework agreement, and had intended to help the uk regain sovereignty over ulster. Some argue that such a breach. Such a move would breach international law, but the eurosceptic wing of the party argued against this. But one cannot help wondering whether , cannot help wondering whether, if rishi sunaks government has stuck with the original plan that Boris Johnson had for the protocol bill, would Northern Ireland now be as much a member of the uk as england, scotland or wales . Means that the judgement that we saw today couldnt be possible , whilst the couldnt be possible, whilst the judgement while, whilst the government has confirmed that it is now detaining migrants for the first rwanda deportation flights, it now seems very possible that well be seeing an exodus of migrants leaving Great Britain for Northern Ireland, with the knowledge that the may well escape deportation after this ruling, as jacob himars himself has jokingly suggested on this programme , from a more on this programme, from a more tory point of view, this wouldnt be maybe such a bad thing as it could encourage more migrants to cross the irish border into the republic, meaning there would be no longer the uks problem as ever. Let me know your thoughts, mel mogg gbnews. Com and join now by kate hoey, baroness hoey, kate hoey, good to see you in the studio here. Im sorry jacob cant be here. Do you believe though, that this deal, this this announcement here by the judge could actually strengthen the sea border between Great Britain and Northern Ireland . I think the judgement today is really significant for the future of the United Kingdom. We have a trade border already, which has been put in, and that was meant to be the end of it all. I mean, we all opposed it andifs all. I mean, we all opposed it and its dividing, without doubt, the United Kingdom. But this now is introducing basically a people border. So how do we know that theyre not going to suddenly decide , well, going to suddenly decide, well, the only way were going to stop people leaving to come to Northern Ireland is to be introducing, producing your passport, producing something to prove that youre allowed to do. And i just think its it is, as ive said over and over again, and ive raised this in the house of lords, and jacob raised it, and the dup raised it, jim allister raised it. And we were told we were literally lied to. I mean, some of the points that that were made were this cannot happen. Its on the face of the bill. Northern ireland is part of the United Kingdom. We will have one United Kingdom immigration law. And now weve seen it. And of course, the government will appeal this. And i presume it will go to the Supreme Court. But i would be very surprised if the Supreme Court take a different view, because everyone who understood it and read about article two of the protocol knew that this could not apply. Just like the legacy bill, so that sea border could strengthen. We could see passport checks to stop people without passports illegally arrive, migrants from going into Northern Ireland. I would have thought any government, whether its this government, whether its this government or the next government, which is likely to be a Labour Government, would have to be very, very careful about the effects on the belfast good friday agreement of actually saying to People Living in Northern Ireland, part of the United Kingdom , that they are United Kingdom, that they are going to have to show something that proves they are who they are. When were living in one country. I mean, we have what other government in the world, what other country in the world would have divided their country at the behest of a foreign power , the European Union . I mean, it is absolutely outrageous. And every week something new happens that shows just how much we were lied to and how much those people, particularly recently, the framework thing that came out, which was about trying to get the dup back into stormont and unfortunately , vie jeffrey and unfortunately, vie jeffrey donaldson, who is no longer there, of course , agreed with there, of course, agreed with it, said, this is wonderful. Weve got everything solved. Complete nonsense. And people understand this and any introduction of anything that divides even more people from Northern Ireland, from the rest of the United Kingdom. Our of the United Kingdom. Our country, im afraid, will be met with very much stronger views and anger than there have been. What would you have done . You cant have a hard border on the island of ireland , or can on the island of ireland, or can you . But hang on. The republic of ireland just a few weeks ago were suggesting, because the Northern Ireland, they said, that all these 80, 80 of all their Illegal Immigrants were coming from Northern Ireland, which i actually dont accept because they were worried about being sent to rwanda. Were saying you know, well have to have checks. So, you know, if you can have checks for people crossing the frontier, which is obviously thats their decision. Its a foreign country. Its not its not part of the United Kingdom. And yet they want to put checks on a tiny amount of trade that goes into the eu via Northern Ireland. Absolutely scandalous. And tomorrow in the house of lords, were going to have the third reading of the animal exports, banning animal exports. Again, not applying to Northern Ireland because weve been left under European Union law. And i think all those people who voted to leave the European Union, including those in Northern Ireland, yes, admittedly not a majority need to realise that they havent actually left the European Union in Northern Ireland. This judges ruling gets dubun this judges ruling gets dublin off the hook, doesnt it . Because it means that therell be no need to go south of the border. If youre in Northern Ireland, you cant be sent to rwanda. Absolutely. Its almost as if the Foreign Office has once again done a little deal with the Irish Government. I mean, im not thats a slightly, slightly cynical, slightly cynical approach and probably not true. But, you know, there is this feeling all the time that our own government, our British Government actually doesnt stand up for the union. I mean, what is their job if the first job is not to actually support the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland . Was Boris Johnson right, all along with that original protocol protocol agreement in the house of lords . Well, i think have to be honest with you. I genuinely feel that if Boris Johnson had stayed, he knew and he told me himself he knew what they were doing was to get brexit done. Doing was to get brexit done. And i actually believe he would not have entered into these further agreements that have just made things so much worse. Just made things so much worse. So whats the answer to the small boats crisis . I mean, you called before, havent you, for northern royal navy to be deployed in the channel yeah. I mean, ijust deployed in the channel yeah. I mean, i just think that that no other country would allow this, these thousands of people that are coming in illegally to happen. And there must be particularly the law of the sea. There is a rule which they should be being taken back. And were paying france millions of pounds, but we cant do it. Theres no returns deal. Post brexit. We cant take people back to france. But we should. If what are we giving france the money for . I mean, thats really what should have happened. But ultimately we, you know, we cant go on like the way this is happening. And Northern Ireland is certainly not good. Northern ireland is not going to be a magnet for people to come over. And i as i said, i just would and i as i said, ijust would warn any government to whos thinking of putting in checks on people they are entering into a very dangerous territory. It could inflame tensions very much. So well, kate hoey, baroness hoey, thank you for joining well, kate hoey, baroness hoey, thank you forjoining us hoey, thank you for joining us tonight on state of the nation. Great to see you here. With me now is a friend of the program, human rights lawyer ivan sampson. Ivan, good evening. Good to see you. Who is sovereign in Northern Ireland, the uk or the eu . Eu . Well, we have obligations under international treaties. Under international treaties. And you may. Its not a question of whose sovereign, but our domestic laws must comply with those obligations. The reason that we havent been able to send anyone to rwanda is because of the European Convention on human rights. So it tells you sovereign , that european sovereign, that European Convention trumped the plans of the government through the rule 39 interim measures, now, i agree with baroness hoey because she said the Supreme Court wont see a different view than the high court in Northern Ireland, and theres no other way they can read it, because the good friday agreement protected fundamental human rights in, in, in entrenched in the European Convention, human rights and protected with the right to scrutiny by the strasbourg courts. Now the rwanda act disapplied all of that. So id like id be interested to see what the Supreme Court in the uk , how are they going to view it . Because their scrutiny has been eroded by the safety of rwanda act, as well. Act, as well. Is that where its all heading . You think some a big a big battle in the Supreme Court later this summer . Ivan i think so. And itll be interesting how the courts deal with this, because they are essentially i mean , justice is essentially i mean, justice is blind, but what the government has done is blinded justice, and what theyve done is blinded. Those Supreme Court and say, look, we know what you said in december that this policy is unlawful, but we say its lawful. We want you to do what Parliament Says despite the fact all the evidence points to the opposite direction on this issue. Ivan, if you have, some, some clients who are illegally arrived migrants, would you be saying to them, get on the first boat to Northern Ireland right now . Well, this is it. Because they can. In fact, now there are no passport checks between the United Kingdom and

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