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resident of hong kong, they haven't been expelling permanent residents yet, but i'm confident that will start to happen. and the process of making, putting journalists under intense surveillance is very much under way. in other words, hong kong, which used to be the safe base from which you reported on affairs on the chinese mainland, is increasingly coming to resemble the mainland itself. journalism has always been a high—risk occupation on the mainland, and it's tragic to see it becoming so in hong kong. we did put some of the points that that you raised there to the chinese embassy here. as yet, we haven't heard back from them. sha hua, you're based in hong kong for the wall streetjournal. do you recognise the atmosphere that steve has just described there? there is tight state control of media and obviously also a tight control sometimes of the sources that we want to talk to.

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