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we want democracy. understood. what about defining certain leaders and commanders as warcriminals? again, it's a very active conversation because vladimir putin is seen by some to be a war criminal, or perhaps better put, as a man who needs to be tried in a court for war crimes. would human rights watch take that view? i mean, we actually did take that view in idlib, the northwestern province in syria, which is actually one of the epicentres of the earthquake right now. but human rights watch did a report a few years back looking at how both the syrian government and the russian government were deliberately bombing hospitals, schools, apartment buildings, marketplaces. i mean, the same kind of stuff we're seeing in ukraine today. but at that point, we actually did a chain of command analysis and went all the way to the top, to assad and to putin, and basically said, "these people are overseeing war crimes, they should be charged and prosecuted."

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