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controversial people from the past? barbara chase—riboud, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. we're sitting here at a major exhibition of your work called infinite folds, and you started your artistic training at the age of seven. how on earth did you know at that early age that you wanted to become an artist? i didn't know i wanted to be an artist. it was my mother and my grandmother who decided that i was going to have something to do with the arts. they weren't quite sure what. you were 16 and you were the youngest person to ever have a work acquired by moma, the museum of modern art in new york.