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pull my punches. and in the last few contributions that i can recall by the archbishop, i don't see, or i haven't heard him pulling his punches either with regards to immigration and all those issues. so, i hearand i understand what giles is saying, and whilst i understand what he is saying, the question for me is, are we using it for good or are we simply using it to collude? i don't think we're colluding, and sometimes i think it is good to challenge from the inside. i think we can do that effectively than standing on the sidelines shouting. interesting that you chose to mention immigration. mm. we are sitting just miles from the kent coast and from the english channel. talk about relevance. totally relevant to your diocese... yes. ..for the people that you deal with every day of every week.