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because we will have somewhere else to send you _ because we will have somewhere else to send you and that is the deterrence i think is so important in the _ deterrence i think is so important in the national crime agency agrees on that— in the national crime agency agrees on that i_ in the national crime agency agrees on that i am so keen to get the scheme — on that i am so keen to get the scheme up _ on that i am so keen to get the scheme up and running. people will disagree. _ scheme up and running. people will disagree, the labour party disagrees with that _ disagree, the labour party disagrees with that principle by the way about having _ with that principle by the way about having a _ with that principle by the way about having a deterrence and workable deterrence agreement but my view is you cannot _ deterrence agreement but my view is you cannot solve this problem without — you cannot solve this problem without having a proper deterrent and that — without having a proper deterrent and that is — without having a proper deterrent and that is how we would have that. and keir starmer as your next week and we will ask him difficult questions as well. you have made this a centrepiece of your premiership but also some of your colleagues are not really convinced that you really mean what you say when it comes to immigration. the man who was immigration minister until not long ago as a friend and former ally of yours and your position is sophistry or you're reading people, you do not mean it.