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the dow, not just the dow but the s&p 500 as well, at its level, 1613, it's making history as well pap big day. i'm wheer teld di weisberg to shed some light on this. you're concerned. when you see the numbers go up and up, it makes you nervous. >> absolutely. one way -- too much of anything is probably not good for us. you tend to get a little too xla sent and yeuphoric. up is always better than down, has a good quotient of the feel-good factor, but day after day of one direction, whether it's up or down, kind of indicates to me that maybe there's a reversal in there somewhere. >> pendulum is swinging, though, isn't it, from years past. >> well, sure, the pendulum has swung dramatically. wasn't so long ago at the end of 2007 till early spring of 2009 that the market went one way then two. but the direction was down, not up. and this doesn't mean that, you