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to distract because he either becomes the object of attack and he wants the conversation to be about the public policy questions. nevertheless, i think he does very much want to see his cause advanced and i would expect that you'll be hearing from him from time to time as he sees opportunities to participate in the conversation. >> barton gelman, thank you for sharing the information. if you want to read the article, and it's fascinating, washingtonpost.com. thank you for being with me this morning. >> thank you. seeing double? two popes at the same time. what's going on? we head live to rome. erin? >> preparations are under way in rome for this pope's very first christmas eve mass. i'll have that and more after the break. hi. my name is major leslie, serving with the screaming eagles 101st