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>> anna, let him finish. >> i promise you can still disagree with me. first of all, they didn't need to point out the baby was black. it was obvious in a room full of white people the kid was black. i don't think they were making funn of the baby. if they were, i'd be right on your side. was it the best joke? no. but it wasn't appropriate. >> you now, you and i have talked about this. a lot of hosts. a lot of people on msnbc, that whole crowd, they criticize me a lot. i never respond because i never respond to colleagues' criticism. why should i? >> fair enough. >> the dog is supposed to howl at the moon. the moon doesn't howl back. >> stewart stevens said this, msnbc has become a club for the smug to go, to exchange hateful opinions and reassure others, each other it's acceptable. he has a point with that.