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about race, though, it's about living, knowing the people who you serve. >> yeah, absolutely. but, if darren wilson had a darker complexion, he would've acted the same way. this is a situation -- it all comes down to what happened that moment he pressed the trigger. >> let me say this, brooke, if i may. >> yep. >> let me say this, and i can say this with complete confidence. if me, rasheed, were the police officer in that incident where i saw michael brown and his companion walking down the middle of the street, i can say with assurety that he would be alive today. he would've approached it from a totally different perspective. okay, and i've worked with white police officers as my -- as my co-workers and comrades. i've seen how they approach black males and how sometimes they misinterpret what's going on in terms of -- or even their approach. so all i'm saying is sensitivity