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and that is where we calculated someone saw something or something tangible. that puts them as to be a missing person. we had as high as 30-some odd number the other day. the phones finally started turning on. the power started to get turned back on. and folks from out of states finally started to get ahold of people. we sent officers to people's homes. we searched for around the 75 numbers where we have had to physically go phone and physically lay eyes on these people and make sure they're okay. we've done that, that is where we get the numbers from. >> the primary rescue efforts that you're talking about transitioning to, when you say organized -- you're talking about groups like the center -- >> like tech -- >> being able to -- versus just joe blow coming in -- >> if you come individually to this site you will be turned

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