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no. that's my wife. second wife at the time, marla maples which undermines his argument. he just mistook jean carroll for his wife at the time. regardless listen and have people get a listen and then your reaction. >> i don't even know the woman. let's say i don't know -- thats marla -- >> you're saying marla's in this photo. >> that's marla. yeah. my wife. >> which woman are you pointing to? >> here. >> the person you pointed to was e. jean carroll. the woman on the right is your, then wife mara. >> this is the picture. is that -- it's very blurry. >> yeah. >> i mean, just part of his defense, she's not my type but just mistook her for his then wife. is that material? >> keep in mind two things here. remember, he's accused of battery. rape allegations come in.