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ridiculous. and ludicrous. >> absurd. i mean, look, i don't fault any criminal attorney for putting up the best possible defenses in court, and that is what their job is. however, in this case, it is pretty clear that defense is going to fall flat in the face of highly contradictory evidence. >> how does hearing from the victims play into the sentencing phase of what we see next, because the community reaction is notable, and danny saying that there is some saying that there is no forgiveness here, and this killer has not asked for it, and unless it is not asked for it, it is not possible to grant it. but no doubt, some people will be connected to this who are not comfortable with the death penalty, and how is that going to be used in sentencing? >> yes. that is going to go to