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saying that i was illegal alien benton imposing -- on the united states. and there are still a bunch of folks who are politically conservative than i am, on social issues, on economic issues. but, who i consider good people, thoughtful people, who i learn from and why enjoy conversations with. and so the polarization that we have seen in our national politics is not identical to what's happening on the ground. but, what is true is that partly because of where people are getting information these days, the siloing of information if you are watching fox news, i've said this before. if you're watching fox news or following some right-wing radio host or getting facebook feeds