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>> what happened when the identity comes to light? >> they are going to be tainted and there is no way around it. and i think it is funny in a way. >> is it? why? >> i mean, because, i'm sure it is not for them. but it is kind of like that's what you get for thinking this guy was so cool when no one looked deeper into anything about him. why did he get that new york apartment for free? how did he get his money? why does he have these young girls around? no one looked any deeper. they just thought it was cool he was a big philanthropist. snow games one looked deeper into anything. they will get labeled as part of the whole thing. >> let me ask you, heidi, there is one name, one label that is