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and i want to draw tension to this, between the history of white supremacy and with the former president is doing today. >> in our time, these still of the old coast of new governments, and we all need to rise to meet the moment. the moment has now. >> i mean, what did you make of him essentially arguing that those who say the confederate rebellion with this noble cause, that was self serving as biden was putting it, the same way he says trump's rewriting history by trying to falsely claim that the election was stolen? >> yes, you, know i thought it was actually pretty powerful. it wasn't a frame of thought i had heard of or thought of before. you lost cause. i grew up in tennessee, some of our southern, you know we have this lost cause, you look back, and you go back over and over again, and it is like a second lost callers is what biden is saying. the southern confederates were