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residents cannot accommodate the families. he adds the governor diminishes his good deed by turning desperate migrants would political pawns. before joining the chronicle, he spent 20 years with the associated press, reporting from africa, the middle east and europe. thank you for being here. customs and border patrol intercepted, i think that's the way i should say it, intercepted 2.4 million people along the southwest border in fiscal year 2023. i then say, well, okay, if they stopped 2.4 million, how many got through? >> well, the border patrol says about 600,000, but there's a very good possibility it was many more than that. >> and that doesn't include asylum seekers, true? >> that's true. i mean, in the del rio region where we have most of the crossings in texas, 83% of the migrants are crossing at established border points and