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departments don't have to respond to everything. and i think what has to happen is they have to know when it's swatting or if a house keeps getting called. some people they call regularly. it's one of these games that they do on these online sites, and it's -- highly dangerous and traumatic to the people subject to them. >> and kristen, i mean, yes, it's been going on for a while, but there seems to be a new momentum to it. i'm wondering is this kind of a symptom, a dangerous mix of the growing polarization of our politics, as well as the dark side of the internet? >> what's so dangerous about it is if law enforcement shows up, they don't go what's going on. if you have somebody doing a ghd job but they're trigger happy, there have been bad, devastating consequences of swatsing. that's not today that political violence is new at all. you had the horrible shooting of gabby giffords, you've had -- you can about -- you can go back and find people with real mental illness who have tried to harm