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when you look at the poll, she is the only one up. desantis and trump went down. only 40% of voters say they are enthusiastic about voting for her. that is a stark contrast to desantis and trump. you much, much higher enthusiasm numbers. there is weakness there. does that set the possible stage for however one would define it, an underperformance that could influence this whole momentum narrative? >> i think the underperformance is possible. one thing that she does have that in some ways bodes in her favor is that she might be a better general election candidate, if she can ever actually make that argument. look, in that same poll, she is doing very well among independents. and that says a lot about -- when you're a democrat and you're look thakt race and saying that a lot of these contests around the country are going to be won on the margins, and independents are very critical to. this if she were a different kind of candidate, if she could say the word "slavery," if she could find a way to talk differently about what happened when she was presiding over the

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