issues as a disorder as opposed to an injury. the thinking is starting to change now. the suicide rates, tom, are so disheartening they are creeping above civilian rates. why do you think the numbers continue to rise and do you think it's a problem that can be addressed? >> it can be addressed. it's a symptom of a force that's breaking. it's a force that's stressed to the point where things are starting to go wrong. i think we are starting to see that the top brass at the pentagon are understanding these issues. i believe they understand these issues. the problem is, it's not getting down to the sergeants, the lieutenants and captains on the line day-to-day with their troopers. if we can bring that type of awareness to the line leaders, they can get the troopers back into the fight. >> it's not filtering down, so