had a bipartisan commission he appointed coming in with a dramatic proposal for $4 trillion worth of reductions in deficits. we've got a group of six senators who are working on their plan to come out of the senate. we now have the house republican budget leader coming out with a plan for $6 trillion in cuts. all of that -- who's the silent player in that? it's the president. i think there's a growing pressure on the white house now, where is your plan? what would you like to see done, mr. president? how would you shape this? paul ryan has given you an invitation to come in. for a long time people in the white house said we don't want to go first, let the republicans. now the republicans have played their card. where is the white house on this? >> you know, in many ways whether the white house wants it or not, it's going to define the domestic policy debate for the next presidential election. so president obama is now being forced to deal with this one way or the other, whether he wants to or not. so he's going to have to put some cards on the table at some