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far as 3040 kilometers deep into this territory a sustained bombardment and this is a bunch of the much the way of typical turkish tactics from 2 previous operations of heavy bombardment the pace the way for the operation which is going expected to be a far more attracted a mole difficult leg of the operation given the fact that some of this fight is expected to be in heavily densely populated towns and this will raise a specter of of high and growing numbers of civilian casualties which we already appear to have a code already in dorian with the u.s. security umbrella what are the kurds are they bracing for they say that they plan to fight against the turks but against the turkish military i mean they don't stand the biggest chance are we talking about an imminent slaughter or bloodbath taking place here. well they have also seen initial statement that they would stand and fight but now we're not hearing that so much in not clear what the the syrian kurds