conservative. under the liberal banner you would only say maybe 8%, 7% would be far left, really bernie sanders left. okay? but, yet, it seems they have an inordinate amount of power when it comes to barack obama. is that because of the web site situation? your stat ignores race. 10 to 14% of the vote is cast by african-americans who are clearly going to be for obama whatever they say their ideology is. another 8% or by latinos who he hopes to win. >> bill: that should diminish the far left though. if it's an ethnic vote or a racial vote, that should diminish the far left power. >> the clear ingredient of that is 30% of the electorate or white liberals. you end up with about 35% of the elector raft that's clearly democratic. and the issue for obama is maximizing that turnout. so, instead of casting 35% of the vote, they cast 38% or 40%.