benson democratic strategist brian benjamin, and fox news contributor leslie marshal. now, guy i'm going to go to you because you always get called a rino for supporting people like jeb bush and chris christie. is this just a matter of name recognition? or do you think jeb bush actually has a shot at winning the primary in the gop process? >> i don't think they're mutually exclusive. the first part of your question is right, this is absolutely name recognition. we see this also when mitt romney's name gets thrown into these poll questions. he ends up at or near the top because face it most normal people aren't even going to start thinking about the election for a very very long time. so a pollster mentions a name they recognize someone they've heard of and they're inclined to go in that direction now. there's not been a single vote cast on a single debate not a single campaign event for anyone yet. so i know that we in the pundit world love this stuff like crack cocaine these early polls but they mean nothing.