got some side deal or some complicating factor said one former obama aide reflecting a deal with clinton and her circle. i don't think there was a conscious effort to watch out for scams. it was more just you know who you're dealing with. let's bring in our pam, judge a drew napolitano, fox news seep juror judicial analyst, abby stoddard, associate editor of the hill and syndicateded columnist, charles krauthammer. leaving the state department, a form that any official would have to sign apparently. >> yes. >> with he don't know whether hillary clinton sign it had or not. what do we know? >> there are two forms that she had to sign, she had to sign one on day one in which she took an oath to preserve in the government's possession government records. if she signed it and two weeks later diverted the government records to her husband's server in chappaqua, new york, she probably committed perjury. second one the one that you've identified that meghan revealed last night you signed in your last day in office, in which you