and say republicans want old people to fend for themselves and grandma to be -- wait a minute grandma to be thrown off a cliff. >> republicans don't do that -- >> what? >> no, unfortunately that's where politics is on both sides. >> you said -- called obama a muslim. name one prominent republican that said obama's a muslim. >> well, i don't really want to get into -- >> just one. >> that's silence. >> just name one. we'll wait. go ahead, take your time. >> there were a lot of people questioning where he was born. >> name one republican. >> donald trump did. >> no donald trump said produce the birth certificate. >> okay. >> he didn't call him muslim. >> sean, this is the problem. when joe is asked and these are legitimate questions and joe gave his answer and they're legitimate answers. but what joe tries to do is he tries to blame the republicans for doing the same thing. what we really need is for joe and for people to say enough is enough. let's not engage in this kind of