good for hill tree have an opponent. some say bring it on. >> i think she's sharp. she's already been through this circus before. so it's not her first time at the rodeo, as we all know. >> yeah, but it didn't work. >> well, with primaries, it's interesting and we saw this in 2012 with the republican primary, it can work to sort of detriment of all the candidates and can be polarizing. when we're looking at her very far out and ahead. usually it's for someone like a martin o'malley who doesn't have the name i.d., who doesn't have really any sort of brand within the national conscious, they want to get themselves out there, make these big statements. the press love it because then they have something a little more meaty and interesting to go after. i have that i a lot of -- think a lot of that's been happening to hillary and jeb. the press is trying to stir up the field on both sides because of the sentiment that it sells more newspapers, gets more