is where she's vulnerable, we'll seize on. >> he's never going to be president, but there will come a time in this primary season where hillary clinton will look like she's not invulnerable. there will be a time when she's a lot more scared when she realizes that she's going to be. someone's going to give her a scare. >> so will the media be giving bernie sanders the appropriate amount of attention, or are we going to kind of build him up because he's the only other person in the race? >> i guess what it means by the appropriate time of contention. if the only issue is whether or not he can become president, we should ignore him. he's making the point, can someone who's not a billionaire become president? that's a very serious and important question. i don't think we can give him too much credit on that regard. if this is all about polls and we're going to be poll driven in the media, we'll ignore him.