fraudulent interview with the author of the book about it, she's equivalent to beyonce lip syncing at the inaugural a few years ago. they have to get serious in treating her like they do others. >> she doesn't allow them access, mark that's how's able to navigate through these waters. she so far is -- the strategy they've adopted is don't talk to the press, don't talk to anybody, we'll march in those people that are in our camp and say they're regular people. so far, she's gotten away with it why would they change? >> yeah and it's working for her. when she sits down and does the big interview, it will be with some favorable --