that who was so shabby who could not bring herself to treat other people with diceecency you wouldn't hire that person as a cashier at mcdonald's. >> no, you wouldn't. >> she is being considered for president of the united states. >> she certainly doesn't seem to be a people person. it's interesting that secret service agents that i know they tell me that they actually like working with michelle obama, that she's nice to them. you see the juxtaposition. with your book out on paper back now. congratulations. thanks for being with us. while you were sleeping it was a show down on capitol hill over the controversial patriot act. >> are we going to so blindly go along and just say take it? i'm not going to take it anymore. i don't think the american people are going to take it anymore. >> so are americans better off or is our national security at risk? a fair and balanced debate