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weapons against us, why should we let the ukrainians have offensive weapons against them? >> yeah, well, certainly that's a hand that putin can play there. obviously this administration would confront that. certainly we have allies that would do the same thing. getting back to the likelihood, an all-out invasion to take control of ukraine, i don't see that as the likely offense for putin. he hasn't broadcast that to his people. he hasn't prepared them for war. he hasn't prepared them for 3 to 5,000 casualties coming home. he is still talking we have no intention to conduct a military operation in ukraine. that's the narrative. most likely operation is putting russian troops in the eastern ukraine in the dom bass region and build the land bridge to crimena. that's the most likely option if is he going to take military incursion. i suspect that's the direction we're heading up. >> brian: what about nord stream