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the reason is it appears they were complicit in wanting that information, wanting that, the link between trump and the russia government and that just did not exist, it never did exist. so this durham investigation is so important to reveal how much of a hoax this truly was. pete: matt, you're right, this latest revelation from durham names tech executive number one, law firm number one, tech firm, you don't get names but what you're saying is it couldn't have just been one tech firm and one tech exec and one law firm? people inside of the government would have had to have known this as well? >> yeah. if you really think about it, how protected government servers are, and should be, there are certainly government agencies monitoring this traffic, to make sure that it is not compromised, that it is not being routed