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just couldn't quite bring himself to leave the democratic party where he had earned a living his whole party. so manchin has a lot of ties. on the other hand, i think manchin is seeing the democratic party go further and further to the left, further away from the values of west virginia. and i suspect he is a serious guy and i thought it was a very important signal that he called speaker mccarthy and said, you're right, we ought to be negotiating. let's find a way to cut spending and work together. so, i don't want to prejudge what he'll do. very hard to win the democratic nomination because is he so much more conservative than the current democratic party. but he would be a significant force in the country and i think, you know, he is a serious man. he wants to make a difference. and i think this is a big first step. and he has a few other people like senator sinema, for example, from arizona. all of a sudden there could be court of a definite mccarthy alliance with common sense

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