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many derailments in such a short period of time. >> in your view how vice president biden and his team responded to the east policy derailment? >> they slow rolled their reaction in ohio. it took days to say anything about east palace dean. one of the greatest environmental disasters the last 40 or 50 years at least. staying silent for the first 10 days and did not go out to ohio until after the former president made a visit with pallets of water. it says a lot about the leadership and the administration. >> do they potentially suggest our infrastructure is in worse shape than we thought? >> clearly, our infrastructure is crumbling. we spent $1.9 trillion in our infrastructure. i don't think they want to see more ev charging stations already being done in the private sector.