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a small business to run their business, and rent is still somewhat high. so, you still can't touch it unless you have a lot of money. now, we just have tents. and drug dealers and drug addicts for our atmosphere. >> todd: but why, why did it go downhill so fast do you think? was it covid, or something else? >> i think it is a combination of a lot of things. now we have 20,000 drug addicts living on the street. the last time that they counted, and it's not that we don't have money to fix it. the cost, i think they were also using -- it cost $800 million out of state budget. so i think someone is emerging themselves in the situation. and it is just -- >> ashley: jani, i have one