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stripped them of their north american empire, including canada, but still they were loathe to declare war on britain as an official american ally, king louis permitted secret aid on america's cause, two most powerful men at court, within the monarchy, they had a dispute over whether to come fo commit to supporting america, they did. after we won the battle of saratoga in october of 1777. after will fall of philadelphia to british control. that frightened him into thinking tha -- thinking that patriots ul give up on. starts in 1778 to end of e