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right? don't put your finger on the trigger, you do or you don't, i saw photographs that he did. if you don't point the gun at somebody, and he did, then he's breaking the rules. gun safety doesn't rely on mechanical parts. mechanical parts are subject to fail. the idea that the gun being modified or not would have any relevance to the case is moot. >> martha: he was arguing that it had been modified and it released without him doing anything, without him pulling the trigger. now this analysis is saying that that is not possible. that he had to have. is that correct? >> that is correct. turn it around so you can see what we're talking about here. if i'm holding the revolver and i have my finger on the trigger, i'm not pressing it, right? i'm just holding it. i'm actually applying sufficient pressure. if i cock the gun and release