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they're the bad ones. like, they're trying to make our kids feel afraid of us, that they can't confide in their own families, that they need to share this with other people other than us. pete: it's staggering, it's almost revolutionary, actually. you -- countries that undergo revolutions turn parents against kids and kids against parents. >> yeah. pete: are you seeing this, by the way, in school districts, kids transitioning because they feel like their parents won't know, don't know? >> i feel like most kids that have transitioned, their parents do know. but for some reason now it's just a push of a lot of people want to say, well, we can't transition because our parents aren't accepting of it, and we might be abused at home. pete: abused, that word is always thrown around. what do you do right now? the how do you as a parent