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in relation to the austin situation, it is a complete shambles and gets worse every day. it is humiliating for america oh, they had the flu so they couldn't do what needed to be done. it reminds me of that terrible projection of weakness. when austin was on a trip during the covid era and walks off a plane. we have all masked up with a plastic visor. what does that tell you about the strength of america? so that's just embarrassing. it is worse than embarrassing. it is serious. what this whole episode reveals is that the people who are supposed to be in charge, the people at the top who are politically accountable are not really in charge. they're irrelevant to the process. the bureaucrat, it doesn't matter what the secretary is there, the deputy. the minute -- he was incapacitated. >> harris: it does matter. your chief of staff had the flu.