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she's all right. have you ever wondered why or hue she blew up like this? around four years ago the pentagon psychological operations unit floated turning taylor swift into an asset during a nato meeting. an op for combatting online misinformation. >> you came in here wanting to understand how you go out and counter the information operation. the idea is social influence can help, can help encourage or promote behavior change, potentially is a peaceful operation. i include taylor swift here because she's fairly influential online person. i don't know if you've heard of her. >> jesse: that's real. the cyop unit pitched nato on turning taylor swift into a nato asset. in the 1900s the government strong armed louis armstrong into doing propaganda tours across africa.