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being sort of outwardly masculine. i think that's a sad thing. i think there's a beauty in raising boys that want to embrace this. people are all different. there's not one great kind of masculinity or femininity. we want people to be who they are. we don't want people to feel bad about the nature of their sex. some of the instincts that come naturally with that. i think that's why this show is so popular. i think it gets back to some of that. people want to watch it and soak it up. >> it's popular with men and women. i just turned 31. in this dating culture, there's certain things that i was raised to go, get the tab. get the door. you start to re-visit those things because in modern day culture, that's not acceptable. what i'm learning, martha, in this whole dating experience is that that means that the person isn't for me then. i'm not going to compromise my value system that my parents raised with me with for 30-plus