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she beat desantis. i will listen to her speech to hear if it's a vice presidential speech or coming after you speech. why does ron stay in? if you are waiting people to catch a cold or conviction that's not a compelling reason to stay in a race to wait for somebody to get sick or go to prison. what's your reason to stay in if you are third and ron desantis? >> dana: iowa can surprise. you know that from history. could it happen tonight? >> yes, since the margin between second and third is pretty close. think about it. 187,000 people turn out to vote like there were in 2016, that means a different change of 6,000 or 7,000 people has a big impact. >> bill: byron, i remember you walking down the sidewalk chasing john kerry 20 years ago. i believe it was you and you come back year after year and