medic down. it is about a 20 minute trip up and down. make no mistake it is not like an elevator shaft. i think we have a graphic in which you can see the path. it starts on the surface. then it grows -- it doesn't go straight down. that is not how it works. the truth is, that shaft has two bends in it, as it goes down. there you can see. the cable has to rest against the side of the shaft. you can see how that would create trick . they shored it up in the middle. the hope is the cable is not going to cause any problems. we were reading quotes from the local disaster officials a moment ago. who say we've been lucky and we have to continue to be lucky or this won't go well. all pictures fed to us by chilean television. if you saw the opening of the shaft a moment ago before the pool feed switched away. you can see see the steam coming out. it is much warmer in the mine than on the surface.