like this museum on the first floor. this is a global headquarters. at the end of the hallway, there were gold records. what are these gold records? did you sing at some point? you were the first ktel guy. right? >> right. i had to come up with something fast, some innovation in my mind to create the wealth. my father was a rural school teacher in idaho. i didn't have a rich uncle. so i had to have money to start the plastic and kel cam business so i came up with the idea to sell the phonograph record over television. we sold millions of them. this was in the late '60s and we utilized that money to get in the -- >> glenn: you were the first to put together compilation album. >> right. >> glenn: you put together the christmas album. i remember from my childhood growing up, we had some of these. little did i know it was going