environment because they 0 do what people do, we expand out and use resources and before we understood the long-term consequences of that. that's a what people do. they're like us, not noble savages, that's a myth that has political implementation, if you believe that, you'll socially engineering, we can end crime by taxing more and giving more to the poor we know at that poverty leads to criminality. no, we know there are a whole other set of causes, you have to understand there's some human nature to us. >> john: thank you, michael. coming up i'll tell you about my take on the biggest myth of history.